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		<title>By: Smith</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-5474</link>
		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an American who watched your documentary last night on Netflix.  I found it compelling and frightening.  My own country which was originally fashioned as an ideal champion of individual liberty has become much less tolerant of personal rights.  It is disconcerting how much information is simply &quot;out there&quot; and the idea of present data being used to prosecute future crimes seems to be a very distinct possibility in our future.  Thank you for raising awareness and also for creating such an interesting film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an American who watched your documentary last night on Netflix.  I found it compelling and frightening.  My own country which was originally fashioned as an ideal champion of individual liberty has become much less tolerant of personal rights.  It is disconcerting how much information is simply &#8220;out there&#8221; and the idea of present data being used to prosecute future crimes seems to be a very distinct possibility in our future.  Thank you for raising awareness and also for creating such an interesting film.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bond</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-5406</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment Mark - and well made points.  I certainly think the idea of accountability is interesting.  My thinking has definitely changed and developed since we made the film - although I&#039;m not sure we&#039;d have ended up with such a fun experiment if we&#039;d gone down the accountability line.  In a way I think of the film as my knee-jerk reaction to my daughter&#039;s details being lost.

I think you&#039;re asking for more regulation.  And rightly, in my view.  The Information Commissioner has finally started to impose some (albeit pretty small) sanctions on companies who mistreat data.  Perhaps we&#039;re moving this way.  Also the coalition government seems to be replacing some of the safeguards removed by New Labour.

Thanks again.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment Mark &#8211; and well made points.  I certainly think the idea of accountability is interesting.  My thinking has definitely changed and developed since we made the film &#8211; although I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;d have ended up with such a fun experiment if we&#8217;d gone down the accountability line.  In a way I think of the film as my knee-jerk reaction to my daughter&#8217;s details being lost.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re asking for more regulation.  And rightly, in my view.  The Information Commissioner has finally started to impose some (albeit pretty small) sanctions on companies who mistreat data.  Perhaps we&#8217;re moving this way.  Also the coalition government seems to be replacing some of the safeguards removed by New Labour.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: David Bond</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-5405</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the info is not correct.  Some is.  The PI&#039;s could certainly find out just as much about anyone, including you, given just your very mysterious gmail account!  Thanks for your comment.  David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the info is not correct.  Some is.  The PI&#8217;s could certainly find out just as much about anyone, including you, given just your very mysterious gmail account!  Thanks for your comment.  David</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bond</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-5394</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting program.  Paranoid.  Why do we need to be private in law or otherwise.  You could never have friends in any age of man if all you insist upon is privacy.  Go live in a cave alone in the back of beyond if privacy if you chief goal in life (as some in the film seemed to imply)  

Accountability is the key here and I feel this is the angle that more usefully should have been followed up.  This film could then have made a real difference.  Companies and organisations must be fully accountable for the information they hold and should any of this information be proven to be incorrect, no matter the cause, massive fines or other sanctions should be in place.  The emphasis should be not on how much information there is but how much is correct and corroborated.  

Humans are ultimately self serving - who of us choses to pay taxes but how could we live without paying them.  

The only reason to complain about how much information is &quot;held&quot; on you is in case it falls into the wrong hands and is used fraudulently against you.  It should be the case that all companies or organisations that hold information about you are sanctioned should this information be used fraudulently - no matter who&#039;s fault.

Interested in the &quot;media&quot; part of the statement too.  All those who produce any incorrect of false information should be heavily sanctioned one way or another.  This is not to stifle opinion - a persons opinion is fine as long as it is factually correct and can be supported with evidence.

Nevertheless Mr. Bond and interesting and thought provoking story and definitely a cut above many documentaries seen on TV for a long time.  Have never before been moved to respond on this sort of forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting program.  Paranoid.  Why do we need to be private in law or otherwise.  You could never have friends in any age of man if all you insist upon is privacy.  Go live in a cave alone in the back of beyond if privacy if you chief goal in life (as some in the film seemed to imply)  </p>
<p>Accountability is the key here and I feel this is the angle that more usefully should have been followed up.  This film could then have made a real difference.  Companies and organisations must be fully accountable for the information they hold and should any of this information be proven to be incorrect, no matter the cause, massive fines or other sanctions should be in place.  The emphasis should be not on how much information there is but how much is correct and corroborated.  </p>
<p>Humans are ultimately self serving &#8211; who of us choses to pay taxes but how could we live without paying them.  </p>
<p>The only reason to complain about how much information is &#8220;held&#8221; on you is in case it falls into the wrong hands and is used fraudulently against you.  It should be the case that all companies or organisations that hold information about you are sanctioned should this information be used fraudulently &#8211; no matter who&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>Interested in the &#8220;media&#8221; part of the statement too.  All those who produce any incorrect of false information should be heavily sanctioned one way or another.  This is not to stifle opinion &#8211; a persons opinion is fine as long as it is factually correct and can be supported with evidence.</p>
<p>Nevertheless Mr. Bond and interesting and thought provoking story and definitely a cut above many documentaries seen on TV for a long time.  Have never before been moved to respond on this sort of forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could you possibly broadcast your wife and daughter&#039;s personal details to everyone? Shouldn&#039;t you have at least blurred/bleeped the info?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could you possibly broadcast your wife and daughter&#8217;s personal details to everyone? Shouldn&#8217;t you have at least blurred/bleeped the info?</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Ashley</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-5315</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The most absurd apology for authority and law is that they serve to diminish crime. Aside from the fact that the State is itself the greatest criminal, breaking every written and natural law, stealing in the form of taxes, killing in the form of war and capital punishment, it`s come to an absolute standstill in coping with crime. It`s failed utterly to destroy or even minimize the horrible scourge of its own creation.&quot;

The main question ... is not what motive inspired the law, but what it will be possible for men of bad motive to do with the law ...&quot;

&quot;Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us.&quot;

&quot;The political arena leaves one no alternative, one must either be a dunce or a rogue.&quot;

&quot;Once governments have been done away with and society&#039;s wealth placed at the disposal of all, all of the antagonism between different peoples will very quickly evaporate and there will be no more justification for war.&quot;


&quot;At all times and everywhere,
whatever the name by which government has been known, whatever its origins and its organization, its essential function has always been that of oppressing and exploiting the masses and defending the oppressors and usurpers: its chief organs and vital characteristics are the gendarme and tax-collector, the soldier and the jailer, unfailingly joined by the peddler of lies, priest or professor, paid and protected by the government to enslave the minds of the people and make them suffer the yoke of oppression without complaint.&quot;

We don`t complain anywhere near enough in the UK. That`s why we are in the position we are in , with CCTV on every corner, our privacy and rights taken from us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The most absurd apology for authority and law is that they serve to diminish crime. Aside from the fact that the State is itself the greatest criminal, breaking every written and natural law, stealing in the form of taxes, killing in the form of war and capital punishment, it`s come to an absolute standstill in coping with crime. It`s failed utterly to destroy or even minimize the horrible scourge of its own creation.&#8221;</p>
<p>The main question &#8230; is not what motive inspired the law, but what it will be possible for men of bad motive to do with the law &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The political arena leaves one no alternative, one must either be a dunce or a rogue.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Once governments have been done away with and society&#8217;s wealth placed at the disposal of all, all of the antagonism between different peoples will very quickly evaporate and there will be no more justification for war.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;At all times and everywhere,<br />
whatever the name by which government has been known, whatever its origins and its organization, its essential function has always been that of oppressing and exploiting the masses and defending the oppressors and usurpers: its chief organs and vital characteristics are the gendarme and tax-collector, the soldier and the jailer, unfailingly joined by the peddler of lies, priest or professor, paid and protected by the government to enslave the minds of the people and make them suffer the yoke of oppression without complaint.&#8221;</p>
<p>We don`t complain anywhere near enough in the UK. That`s why we are in the position we are in , with CCTV on every corner, our privacy and rights taken from us.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bond</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-2319</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no - I didn&#039;t want to put up a list of all the organisations who know about me as I worried that might give away (even more...) personal information.  You can imagine who they are though: banks / savings / mortgage / utilities / phone / shops / travel / car / children.  I bet if you sit down and ask yourself &quot;who knows about me&quot; you&#039;ll have a list of 80 organisations in no time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no &#8211; I didn&#8217;t want to put up a list of all the organisations who know about me as I worried that might give away (even more&#8230;) personal information.  You can imagine who they are though: banks / savings / mortgage / utilities / phone / shops / travel / car / children.  I bet if you sit down and ask yourself &#8220;who knows about me&#8221; you&#8217;ll have a list of 80 organisations in no time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: well done david,</title>
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		<dc:creator>well done david,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello is there a list of all the organisations david wrote to on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello is there a list of all the organisations david wrote to on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 12:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some interesting views and some cranks. I did not get to see the film in its entirety but would love to buy the DVD it looked like good jounalism. The little I saw certainly made me think. I am concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties in this country. The fact that the UK government can even suggest that locking up any individual without charge for up to 42 days should be criminal in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting views and some cranks. I did not get to see the film in its entirety but would love to buy the DVD it looked like good jounalism. The little I saw certainly made me think. I am concerned about the erosion of our civil liberties in this country. The fact that the UK government can even suggest that locking up any individual without charge for up to 42 days should be criminal in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://erasingdavid.com/discussion/privacy-in-law/comment-page-1/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 12:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the film on more4 and although it was helpful - it merely touched the surface and I felt that you missed a golden opportunity to finally bring into the mainstream what many of us have known for decades - that this and other countries are slowly but purposefully moving towards a police state governed by banks. Although I understood the irony at the end of your film - registering your child&#039;s birth - you again missed the opportunity to tell people that your baby&#039;s name (and all our names) on the certificate was in CAPS - this is very significant. You also missed the chance to tell people that this - the first certificate of registration of a tiny &#039;person&#039; (person means - fiction) is actually the first CONTRACT between your baby and the state - it is a CHOICE - you don&#039;t have to do it. Maybe you didn&#039;t know this - I don&#039;t know but please, please make a follow up and research this angle fully. I know very little myself - what I do know, I researched fully and checked it out with lawyers, but feel free to email me if I can be of any help. Also I discovered &#039;The People&#039;s United Community&#039; on contraversial tv, they have a website: www.tpuc.org they are nothing directly to do with me but the man who runs it is very, very well informed and can teach you a lot about common law and what &#039;registration&#039; really means in all aspects of our contracted lives, from council tax and car &#039;registration&#039; to stop and search and debt collectors. FREE yourselves!! 

We have a choice - please remember this and include it in your next film. Cheers, peace, Matt xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the film on more4 and although it was helpful &#8211; it merely touched the surface and I felt that you missed a golden opportunity to finally bring into the mainstream what many of us have known for decades &#8211; that this and other countries are slowly but purposefully moving towards a police state governed by banks. Although I understood the irony at the end of your film &#8211; registering your child&#8217;s birth &#8211; you again missed the opportunity to tell people that your baby&#8217;s name (and all our names) on the certificate was in CAPS &#8211; this is very significant. You also missed the chance to tell people that this &#8211; the first certificate of registration of a tiny &#8216;person&#8217; (person means &#8211; fiction) is actually the first CONTRACT between your baby and the state &#8211; it is a CHOICE &#8211; you don&#8217;t have to do it. Maybe you didn&#8217;t know this &#8211; I don&#8217;t know but please, please make a follow up and research this angle fully. I know very little myself &#8211; what I do know, I researched fully and checked it out with lawyers, but feel free to email me if I can be of any help. Also I discovered &#8216;The People&#8217;s United Community&#8217; on contraversial tv, they have a website: <a href="http://www.tpuc.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.tpuc.org</a> they are nothing directly to do with me but the man who runs it is very, very well informed and can teach you a lot about common law and what &#8216;registration&#8217; really means in all aspects of our contracted lives, from council tax and car &#8216;registration&#8217; to stop and search and debt collectors. FREE yourselves!! </p>
<p>We have a choice &#8211; please remember this and include it in your next film. Cheers, peace, Matt xx</p>
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