Are you more or less paranoid about your data than you were 12 months ago? When I look at the film now and see myself looking pale and gaunt it takes be back to how frightening it was at the time – but I reckon I’m more careful now than I’ve ever been with my data. There’s a good reason why people use the phrase ‘he has a hunted look’ – I really had a hunted look! One thing I noticed was that for the whole time I was running away, I had a really stiff neck. A doctor told me that this is a common symptom if you are constantly in ‘flight’ mode. Basically it is your body telling you to look behind you! So at the time, I barely slept, I began to have paranoid thoughts about everybody I met or even passed in the street. I wondered if people were agents of the Private Investigators. I even began to wonder if my producer (and great friend) Ashley had betrayed me in order to make the film turn out a certain way (he hadn’t, by the way, and he’s forgiven me for thinking that!). By the end I had started talking to myself and was showing signs of deepening paranoia. The really freaky thing was that this didn’t just stop when the film was over. For a good few weeks afterwards I found it really hard to sleep and settling back into family life was much harder than I thought it would be. The long term effect of making the film (it is over a year on now) has been the most profound. I routinely question exchanges of data and information that most people don’t notice. This can be a pain – but it is also really liberating: I better understand the Faustian pact we have with governments and corporations. And I am resolved to fight my and my family’s corner when it comes to letting others learn about, profile and map us.
Erasing David
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I am more paranoid, as I begin to hear more stories of how our personal data is getting lost, stolen, hacked, misdirected and mishandled. I am gadget-happy and I love trying out new technology, but then I think about how much information I provide on the Internet, and how I willingly cross-reference it by linking accounts, filling out profiles, etc. I often see-saw between wanting to take myself off the grid and wanting to reap the benefits of news aggregators, sms reminders of appointments, and keeping up with long-distance friends. I feel like there is no middle ground in this decision, it really is a question of trading in your privacy for technology. And of course, I’ve already chosen technology — here I am posting, and providing you with a name (required) and an email address (required)! I think we all have. The decision was made before I was born. The question we’re really trying to figure out is, how does that trade-off sit with us? I’m still not sure.
I really want to see this film. I hope it gets distributed in the US so I can!
Comment by M Larsen — March 13, 2010 @ 5:23 pm
One should have no credit cards, bank accounts, cars or properties in your name and work has to be done for cash only to have a good chance of disappearing off the radar. Phones should be pay-as-you go sims (cost 50p) from places like Asda. These should be changed often.
Internet access should only be hotspots or peoples home wireless where they have no security enabled (walked down a street once and it’s surprising how many have no security enabled. Oh and change the id of your notebook frequently.
Do all this and it is very hard to find you … if at all. Get over to EU and then it is even harder to trace you.
Am interested to see this film just to see how he attempted it. One last thing, change your appearance, hairstyle and colour, wear glasses with clear glass, if you wear glasses get contact lenses … and wear a hat.
Comment by Spartan — March 18, 2010 @ 1:52 pm
David … looking at your comment l can see that you were not cut-out to do this disappearing act. You in effect caught yourself.
Comment by Spartan — March 18, 2010 @ 2:57 pm
David … l’ll offer you a challenge. l’ll give you a specified timespan chosen by you and your company and see if you can find me when l disappear from the UK. I’ll put up a wager that you won’t.
Comment by Spartan — March 18, 2010 @ 3:04 pm
Spartan I’m really interested in your comment – do you mean that there is a personality-type that is well suited to living privately in the UK nowadays? What kind of type is it? I’m possibly not that type! I wonder how many people really are… I love your challenge. I suspect that you may be right and may be able to stay hidden. Did you see the film yet? David
Comment by David Bond — March 18, 2010 @ 4:51 pm
Watched the trailer – looks very good!
BUT, i would have to agree with Spartan i’m afraid! ever hear of ‘freegans’? or ‘freemen of the land’?
These people have eschewed the modern high-tech lifestyle (most) conform to in recent times, and some live on the most meagre of existences just to be free.
Just Google ‘freegan’ or ‘freemen on the land’ and you will see what i mean!
I have been paranoid for a very long time now (it wasn’t clear why i had these feelings of paranoia for years, but then found someone who showed me various ‘conspiracy theorist’ videos, and a whole range of other media, which changed my life altogether and helped me understand) and am even more so paranoid now, though i hide it well! Apologies for screening my e-mail through gishpuppy by the way, please be assured it will be redirected to one of my real e-mail addresses!
The reason i’m so paranoid is because where i work, we sometimes have to look up people’s phone numbers and home addresses; you may think going ex-directory and using a P.O box would stop unwanted mail being delivered, right? check out http://www.192.com and see how far back your home can be traced, and the neighbour’s, and the cost of your house when you bought it, and what previous owners paid for it, etcetera, etcetera!
then factor in that alot of the time mobile phone numbers can be found easily enough too; and in this technological age most of these phone are now equipped with GPS modules that can nearly pin point your exact location at any given point of the day!
Then there’s the CCTV – it’s nearly everywhere now, and most people don’t even realise it’s there – how do you hide from something you don’t realise is there?
I have to go now, but will be interested to see your reply once you have investigated some of the things i have mentioned – thanks for reading!
Comment by A. Nonymous — March 18, 2010 @ 7:18 pm
@David … e-mail me at angelthecat@abv.bg
@ A. Nonymous … yes indeed, use of mobile is tracked and logged and even whilst it is not being used as long as it is powered on.
For anyone wishing to keep off the radar, frequent changing of sims is paramount as is powering it up only when you wish to use it. The old sims should be given away with some credit still on. Personally if l was really serious about staying off the radar l’d erase all recent call history and texts and then just leave the phone somewhere were there are a load of kids. lt’s virtually guaranteed that they will use the credit left on it.
Also one should keep a sim that you never use for calls, texts or anything other than keeping your contact numbers on. These can be transferred to the next secondhand phone you purchase for use. You can pick these up for £5-£10. They won’t be the latest phone of course but you only want it for communication anyway … it isn’t needed as a fashion statement!
Also purchase a smart sim as this means any sim can be used with any phone regardless of phone locking … cost about £5.
CCTV? … learn off the youth of today … hoodies and hats with brims and peaks along with the very fashionable Palestinian scarvs.
Comment by Spartan — March 19, 2010 @ 12:28 am
Cannot get access to film in UK so will have to wait till its shown on 4. I won’t prejudge film and hopefully the online debate will be good.
@Spartan
love the sim phone idea, any more tips?
@David
take the challenge
Comment by Mick Walker — March 22, 2010 @ 11:59 pm
@ Mick … if you want to disappear, it’s really not that difficult. Having only seen the trailer, l can only judge from that which is a little unfair but saying that, it does seem to go with current techniques. So here is an abbreviated manual to stop being who you were.
The world we live in is now computer technology based and this means that we leave electronic footprints wherever we go … unless we don’t want to.
To disappear you have to make very big changes to how you live. To begin with all your credit cards, bank cards, bank accounts have to go. No more electronic transactions … from now on everything is cash. You’ve already given up your job in order to disappear so that’s another electronic trail that’s stopped. No more Inland Revenue files on you.
Your car? … sell it or whatever. lt’s a liability at this point.
You say goodbye (or not if you prefer) to your friends and family either before you go on your new journey or after you’ve set off. Stay in touch by phone as in my previous post because you don’t want to cause distress and worry to those you love … and neither do you want them to report you as missing!
First thing is to get out of the area you live. At the first opportunity change your appearance with use of hats, scarves etc and then head for the major roads because you are going to be hitch-hiking to begin with. No buses or trains for you at this point … don’t want them pesky cctv images do we?
Well, you’re on your way to a new life. Next comes work (cash), accomodation (shared so your name is on nothing) and a new ID. What are you going to call yourself?
As l say … abbreviated but you get the jist. You can stay undetected in the UK but if it was me l’d be over to the EU as fast as l possibly could … more sunshine!
The one thing you cannot guard against is fate. Many years ago l bumped into the father of my wife’s friend who just walked out of his life without saying anything and never came back. He lived in the same small seaside resort as l did with a pop of less than 15,000, yet l met him running a small bar on a remote tropical island!
Comment by Spartan — March 27, 2010 @ 2:14 am
Has David been erased?
Comment by Spartan — March 30, 2010 @ 12:58 am
No I’ve been in Kiev at the Human Rights Film Festival. So that was pretty close to erasure, I suppose. Spartan, you’ve been a great supporter of the film here, thanks. Let’s speak. David
Comment by David Bond — April 1, 2010 @ 1:19 pm
I found this site via a link from http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk. As a senior Information Security professional with over 20 years experience and working for a major telco/ISP, I have become increasingly paranoid. I see on a day to day basis the increasing levels of intrusion that exists, including RIPA requests for ever more trivial reasons, demands from central Government for ever more detailed retention of data and highly dubious interconnects. I was once told that the current Government views us all as bad people who need protecting from ourselves, sorry guys, Big Brother is already here. I’m very much looking forward to watching the film on More4. David, I am a fan already, and if you need any help or information, please get in touch.
Comment by Splitpin — April 12, 2010 @ 6:43 pm
“”(it is over a year on since they caught me, now)”"
Are you giving away the outcome of the film here?
I was so curious:)
Comment by Bob — April 13, 2010 @ 9:17 pm
don’t abandon your curiosity – i get away in the long run…
Comment by David Bond — April 13, 2010 @ 11:44 pm
@ Spartan – changing SIM cards, presumably without making use of the option to transfer your old phone number to your “new” phone is a good idea.
However, although it may frustrate private detectives, it does not stop any of the hundreds of Government agencies who are self-authorised to demand Communications Data from the mobile phone networks.
A mobile phone Call Data Record contains not just the phone number from the SIM, but the mobile phone handset’s International Mobile Equipment Identity serial number as well, which is supposed to be unique.
Comment by Watching Them, Watching Us — April 17, 2010 @ 9:13 pm
@ Spartan –
The mobile phone handset IMEI can be changed simply on many phone handsets (but not on all of them), however doing so in the UK (or even possessing the equipment to do so i.e. a computer and a cable and some software) is illegal, with a penalty of up to 5 years in prison. There are plenty of such phones being used by criminals etc.
Have a look at Spy Blog’s Hints and Tips for Whistleblowers etc.
http://ht4w.co.uk
which has a section on mobile phones etc.
“Anonymity loves company”, so hiding in a crowd is a good idea, but if the crowd you hide in is full of criminals, then you may well be put under surveillance or arrested, through “guilt by association”.
It is very frightening that any innocent people in the UK should have to resort to the same sort of techniques which political dissidents living under dictatorships have to use.
Comment by Watching Them, Watching Us — April 17, 2010 @ 9:15 pm
David, your film will only have scratched the surface of what surveillance individuals actually do. You just have to Google surveillance companies and see the background of some of them – ex military / ex SAS etc. Part of the service they offer is to provide risk assessment for high net worth individuals. The question to ask, what do surveillance companies do when the “risk” has been assessed? These guys ring fence and protect those who can afford to pay them and take care of individuals who could threaten the name of their paymasters.
I have dealt with intrusive surveillance – been followed, had my character assassinated, my credit card info put into the security network so I am flagged whenever I purchase items in stores where I am treated like a shoplifter. I do not trust my mobile phone, landline or computer. Initially, they will have already monitored your living patterns, the routes into and out of your house/road where you live. The routines of your neighbours as well as yourself. They come into your home at night – using a form of laughing gas to leave you in a semi conscious or comatose state and, once in, your home is their playground. They know everything about you – having listened/watched you in your home. They use that info to make your life as difficult as possible.
The Government has trained them but plays no part in policing their activities once they are out in civvy street. Its not paranoia – its the way the wealthy protect themselves from the mistakes they make and those who could whistleblow on them. Its going to get worse and no one can police them.
Comment by Faraway — April 21, 2010 @ 12:10 am
this talk of mobile phones all the time. If I was going to disappear I would NOT take a mobile phone. I know they are slowly vanishing off the high streets but I would surely manage to find myself a Phone box somewhere. A piece of paper with numbers on is lighter to carry, and numbers you dial more often you would submit to memory. This is a dying art form with the use of speed dials these days
Comment by postieparker — April 23, 2010 @ 8:06 pm
Whilst accepting the considering help Cerebus gave in making this documentary – their spy shop offers a USB voice recorder and also a virtual stealth spy – why say it is perfect for parents and then state they hope the office cleaner does not have it? What are they actually inferring and offering. In this surveillance state – this sort of equipment, in an unregulated market – contributes to the misuse of information gathering.
Comment by Cheryl — April 24, 2010 @ 7:45 pm
Cerebrus need to be prosecuted. They have broken just about every Data Protection law there is.
Comment by mona — April 27, 2010 @ 10:49 am
Thoroughly enjoyed film and discussion this evening. Mostly enjoyed the irony – tweeting during event, filming of event.
Comment by Veronica — April 27, 2010 @ 11:43 pm
Just back from the screening in Bath. An excellent film, highlighting some very important points. And the discussion bought up some excellent topics too.
You have, David, done something that, I hope, will prompt some much needed reform to a part of our technological society that, although great, is far to open for abuse and critical error on a much larger scale.
I fear it will take a collective bite in our asses before something is really put into motion.
I remember being told, what I thought was amusing at the time, something by an old IT teacher 10 years ago. He was able to track ALL of his junk mail and commercial garb back to its original source by slightly changing his name or contact details in each application (utilities, services, etc). He made a note of each change, and when something dropped through the door or he had a call, he would know excactly which company the info was sourced from (and it would usually transpire that he had ticked a box that PREVENTED the release of the information). It just seems that much more relevant now and also scary to think how much it must have grown in the last decade…
Well done and keep up the good work!
Comment by MisterOli — April 30, 2010 @ 2:32 am
I didn’t think I was very concerned about surveillance or how easy it would be to trace me. I had recently laughed at the “craziness” of a friend refusing to put pictures on facebook of her baby. As a medical student I thought we did a pretty good job in the NHS of protecting patient data. But boy was I wrong! Over the course of 80 minutes your film completely reversed my standpoint! I can’t believe how much information I gave away without caring in the slightest. As part of the ardent facebook generation, endless stuff is on there and the only thing I had done up until now was changed my photo privacy settings (after a friend got into huge trouble with the medical school after someone ELSE posted a picture of him pretending to have sex with a Little Annie Resuscitation doll). It made me painfully aware that with a little time and enough money, someone could track you and your entire family down.
And whilst I am not frightened of a fascist state doing that, the idea that an obsessive stalker could is a lot more concerning! Quite ironic with the announced opening of a government funded stalker helpline considering that government funded databases could be used by the said stalker to track you down. And the idea that someone with a contact on a database could find out so much information on a child surely makes kidnapping children in custody battles exponentially easier.
So thank you for making a great film AND opening my eyes an issue I’d previously disregarded as irrelevant.
Comment by Medstudent — April 30, 2010 @ 11:23 am
For most of us, this discussion of trying to disappear is not the point. We want to engage in this world, to take advantage of it, to enjoy it and add to it (as David has done). But we dont want to be exploited, spied on, taken advantage of (too much). So the point is: how do we regular people, users of the technology, learn about who is spying on us, tracking us? And how does it affect what we do? And what can we do to counter it (and counter the counter-attack, and so on ad inf…)? If we dont want to erase ourselves from the everyday world, and dont want to have stiff necks all the time, HOW is a good, minimally harrassed life to be achieved?
Comment by gaspard delanuit — April 30, 2010 @ 4:29 pm
I am so looking forward to seeing this. I’m forever on my soapbox about the erosion of civil liberties/privacy violations in the U.K. In fact, if I could do any kind of work, it would centre around drawing attention to these issues. The film is sure to be a major talking point for me! Cheers.
Comment by Vee — May 3, 2010 @ 3:50 pm
What happened to the interview with Stephen Mainwaring? About Phorm? (The surveillance scandal that involves Labour Cabinet Ministers, British Telecom Directors, and a complete failure of the UK Security Services to prevent nationwide personal and commercial espionage by a bunch of spyware crooks).
Though Stephen appears in the ‘Thanks to’ in the credits… the interview has been cut from the edition of the film shown on More4.
‘Erasing Stephen’ might have been a more appropriate title.
Comment by Pete — May 5, 2010 @ 12:09 am
Just finished watching the film on more 4, what an eye-opener! I was just flicking through the channels and thought i would watch it for a minute but ended up glued to it. I was hoping at first that you would make it but by the end I was glad you had been caught as your mental state was clearly suffering. I was shocked by how easy they managed to find out your hospital appointment so they could catch you there. In the film, you only show your first reaction to the guy saying “hello dave” but I was wondering how you felt after that? disappointed at them finding you or relieved/overjoyed that it was all over and you could go home and sleep in your own bed with the family around?
Comment by Keith — May 5, 2010 @ 12:23 am
P.S will this end up coming out on DVD?
Comment by Keith — May 5, 2010 @ 12:26 am
Thank you, David, for an eye-opening documentary. Although for the film you decided to opt for the ‘normal life’ approach, I wonder how much longer you could have evaded capture in taking a more vigilant method? It is easy for me to see how more problems are emerging every day when young people ‘give away’ their sensitive data. Also, why does the UK Government NEED ID cards if people are giving away their details for free on Facebook, MySpace or Twitter? Surely it could simply buy the information, and I imagine, this has happened already. The NHS want my information for a database, and I have tried to opt out and not received any further communication. Worrying.
Comment by becky — May 5, 2010 @ 12:54 am
David, no offence, but a 12 year old could have done a better job of avoiding being tracked, i understand the whole point of the exercise was to show how easy it is to track us if we live a conventional lifestyle and to show the amount of information multiple sources hold on us, but did you really think it was wise to make contact with your mother your father and your wife all within 18 days of supposedly trying to disappear off the radar, not to mention using a mobile phone registered to you and using your own passport.
Short of going back to your own home i can’t think of many ways you could have made it any easier, in fact the only way you wouldn’t have got tracked was if those pursuing you overlooked the most obvious things because they didn’t think anyone would be stupid enough to do them..
I’ve known a number of people over the years that have lived off the radar for many years, it’s not that difficuilt once a cash income source has been found, from then on it’s about common sense and the ability to detach from your previous existence which you were obviously incapable of doing, which made the attempt to avoid being tracked a bit pointless in the end.
Beyond all that i would have liked to have seen a little more detail on how private detectives acquire info when tracking people, both the legal and illegal means used…
Comment by Cole — May 5, 2010 @ 1:46 am
The Information commisioners office need to look into the Cerberus operation immediately! It is quite clear that they have broken the data protection laws. Anyone who is happy to be filmed posing as someone else on the phone to the establish medical record information on someone else is an idiot. These two individuals look extremely unsavoury/creepy and unprofessional.
Comment by steve — May 5, 2010 @ 8:55 am
To the comment above – David states in the film that the point is not merely to avoid being tracked, it is to see whether it is possible to live a normal life while simultaneously avoiding leaving a “data stream”. This film goes some way to proving that you can’t.
One issue I had with the film was the end, where David’s wife, Katie I think, talks about how depressing and ugly they find England as a result of their experience. The thing is that it is not just here that we are constantly surveyed, this is a result of a number of things; the enormous growth of the internet, the growth of technology in general, and the feeling that we are safer if our data is “protected” by whoever, the government, or private agencies. This is not a British phenomenon, this is happening all over the world. I acknowledge that we are perhaps under the states control in this way than most or even all other countries, however this doesn’t mean its a uniquely British situation.
On a side note, could anyone tell me what was the very last song used in the film, over the credits? I was very annoyed when I couldn’t remember the name.
Cheers
Comment by Duncan — May 5, 2010 @ 5:58 pm
”unsavoury/creepy and unprofessional” that’s a bit strong Steve.. my guess is, posing as someone else on the phone to obtain medical records or any other info would be one of the more run of the mill things a PI would do, in fact that is something any mug could do from home. I’m sure professionals have far more skilled and far more illegal ways and means to get the job done if necessary, things that would be far beyond the average Jo’s capabilities.
Steve i’m sure if you needed someone found or any other investigative work done, for whatever reasons, it’s likely you wouldn’t be too happy with the results if those you were paying only used strictly legal methods.
I’m sure if your child or a loved one went missing unexpectedly and you needed to track them down you would be only too happy with a little law bending or breaking by a PI, if that is what it took..
Comment by Cole — May 5, 2010 @ 8:47 pm
Bending the law is one thing, blatantly breaking it is another. If you are going to do this sort of thing at least have some decorum, eh! The Information Comissioner should be looking at Cerberus. Apparently the producers of this film looked for a very long time for someone to do what Cerberus did, and not surprisingly couldn’t find anyone to undertake the task. Then they stumbled upon these two!
Comment by steve — May 6, 2010 @ 8:50 am
Following the film, I accidentaly stumbled upon the following report from CBS, and I can only invite all of you to immediately watch it. Talking about accessing private data… Paranoid, Moi???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC38D5am7go
Let me know what you think
Comment by Fred — May 6, 2010 @ 2:57 pm
Great find! Blimey that is terrifying.
Comment by David Bond — May 7, 2010 @ 3:09 pm
That’s not quite right actually. We did look for a long time for people to undertake the task – but lots of people (most of those we spoke to) wanted to do it. We were being picky about how good we thought they’d be – not whether we thought they’d be happy to break the law (as you see it)!
Comment by David Bond — May 7, 2010 @ 3:22 pm
I have to say you certainly picked the right ones! Photogenically they look exactly right, One being something of a Hannibal Lecter lookalike, and the other one seemingly something out of Withnail and I! (even the locations smacked of the film, ie cottages in the middle of nowhere etc). Yes indeed they were perfect for the role you set them up in. The fact that you agreed not to drop them in it is of little consequence. I assure you the relevant authorities will take a very different view, and will care not a jot for what you have agreed with anyone.There is history to this you know..look it up.
Comment by steve — May 7, 2010 @ 3:56 pm
Why does this website operate with cookies, when the privacy guide suggests we should treat them with caution??
Comment by P. Noid — May 8, 2010 @ 11:49 pm
I think that many people are being overly harsh here, I suspect that personality would affect your ability to disappear, someone who has grown up used to the trappings of society such as bank cards and mobile phones would find it hard to adjust to living without these things, living on a cash only basis is possible but again is not something that someone could easily do especially if they have never lived in such a way.
I particularly liked the show because it highlighted some of the problems with the information stored (even small margin of error can destroy someones life), in addition you only had a couple of guys looking for you, if you scaled this up to a government your opportunities and chances would be slim at best.
I suspect that to really disappear and maintain a reasonable life style you need to become someone else.
Comment by M Burton — May 13, 2010 @ 4:44 pm
For those interested in just how much surveillance and information gathering and sharing there is in the UK – just take a look at the undernoted websites relating to Northern England and Scotland. Whilst the narrative is “worthy” – retail crime is shocking – perhaps it is time we all stopped and asked what happens when the wrong name, the wrong facial identification ID gets into the system, or is put there by malicious people in the securities industry. The companies, retail outlets and shopping arcades participating in this information sharing is frightening. It would be interesting to hear from anyone who can confirm exactly what this ‘information sharing’ is ’cause, in the wrong hands …! http://www.retailersagainstcrime.org and http://www.sbcc.org.uk . For those who are interested, also take a look at wikipedia’s interpretation of radio frequency ID!
Comment by Cheryl — May 27, 2010 @ 7:52 pm
Thanks Cheryl – wow retailers against crime is very interesting. Great links. We’d love to hear from anyone who know about this system. Please get in touch.
“Radio-frequency identification (RFID) is the use of an object (typically referred to as an RFID tag) applied to or incorporated into a product, animal, or person for the purpose of identification and tracking using radio waves. Some tags can be read from several meters away and beyond the line of sight of the reader.” So says Wikipedia.
Comment by David Bond — May 28, 2010 @ 2:35 pm
@ Watching Them, Watching Us … sorry, l disappeared for a while:)
If you read my previous posts you’ll find that l advocated dumping the old phone if preferred. As for changing the IMEI number … yes, l know about this and how to do it. Your fears concerning the illegality of doing this are of really very little concern. There is still the element of proof for anysort of conviction to be successful and this would be virtually impossible unless one is pretty stupid or naive.
Your assumed ‘guilt by association’ is also meaningless because what would you be guilty of? Firstly the phone itself won’t be on any stolen records database because it was never reported stolen in the first place. Secondly, there are millions of phones used by tourists in the UK that aren’t on any UK database. Thirdly, if you buy a secondhand phone, how do you know it’s IMEI has no been changed? … you simply know whether the phone works or not.
l also fail to see how they can put you under surveillance either if you’ve dropped off the radar.
Finally watched David’s film and there was a lot of good info in it. l wonder what the outcome would’ve been if he had done the film a year after his baby had been born?
RFID chips can be easily disabled … the one in my passport stopped working shortly after l recieved it. Electronics do have a habit of failing
Comment by Spartan — May 31, 2010 @ 1:19 am
wow, just saw this film and am now really quite paranoid so thanks i think?
just spending 2 minutes to think through all the different companies and people who know so much info on me is pretty scary even though i probably didnt think twice as i freely gave out this info.
the NHS involvement in the documentary waas by far the most creepy part as the woman on the phone was all to willing to hand out info to someone on the phone who says they are someone else.
other than the sinking feeling of paranoia i now feel the documentary was really informing and i will be passing it on…
Comment by shell — June 2, 2010 @ 7:02 pm